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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
	
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		<title>By: Sandbox 0.9 Released @ 天佑的自由天地</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandbox 0.9 Released @ 天佑的自由天地</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 06:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[…] 這個版本在 markup 上當然有所改動，其中一些改動�?�從 Andy 在�?計 0.8 版本的改動內的留言略知一二，最清楚的方法莫�?�於自行細讀 zip file 內的 readme，或 Scott 放出來的 Sandbox 0.9 readme。 […] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] 這個版本在 markup 上當然有所改動，其中一些改動�?�從 Andy 在�?計 0.8 版本的改動內的留言略知一二，最清楚的方法莫�?�於自行細讀 zip file 內的 readme，或 Scott 放出來的 Sandbox 0.9 readme。 […]</p>
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		<title>By: Sandbox v0.9 Released &#183; plaintxt.org</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandbox v0.9 Released &#183; plaintxt.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 05:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So what&#8217;s changed? Well, a great deal has. To get a taste you can read my comment in regards to the proposed 0.8 release. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So what&#8217;s changed? Well, a great deal has. To get a taste you can read my comment in regards to the proposed 0.8 release. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2481</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 12:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My text editor of choice is &lt;a href="http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Notepad++&lt;/a&gt;, though I often use &lt;a href="http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/" rel="nofollow"&gt;TopStyle Light&lt;/a&gt; for hashing out CSS. I honestly don't care much for the full-fledged TopStyle program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My text editor of choice is <a href="http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">Notepad++</a>, though I often use <a href="http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/" rel="nofollow">TopStyle Light</a> for hashing out CSS. I honestly don&#8217;t care much for the full-fledged TopStyle program.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2480</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 10:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally off topic, but what text editor are you using?

Thanks,
Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally off topic, but what text editor are you using?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2479</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 02:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Zeo.

The whole &lt;code&gt;entry-author&lt;/code&gt; is supposed to be just another hCard, and so just like any other hCard it &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be in an &lt;code&gt;address&lt;/code&gt; element, but it's not required (&lt;a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Author" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).

I did take your advice, Zeo, from an earlier comment you made about XOXO. You'll notice I've thrown in the &lt;code&gt;xoxo&lt;/code&gt; class here and there. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Zeo.</p>
<p>The whole <code>entry-author</code> is supposed to be just another hCard, and so just like any other hCard it <em>should</em> be in an <code>address</code> element, but it&#8217;s not required (<a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Author" rel="nofollow">link</a>).</p>
<p>I did take your advice, Zeo, from an earlier comment you made about XOXO. You&#8217;ll notice I&#8217;ve thrown in the <code>xoxo</code> class here and there. <img src='http://www.plaintxt.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Zeo</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2478</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 01:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see xoxo :)

Did you notice that it's required that Entry Author (hAtom) to be encoded with &lt;code&gt;address&lt;/code&gt;.

Anyway, right on time. Let me know when the new version is release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see xoxo <img src='http://www.plaintxt.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Did you notice that it&#8217;s required that Entry Author (hAtom) to be encoded with <code>address</code>.</p>
<p>Anyway, right on time. Let me know when the new version is release.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2477</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 18:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, maybe that's the best approach, &lt;code&gt;span.nav-meta&lt;/code&gt;. One note on your previous comment, Adam: &lt;code&gt;body.single div.navigation&lt;/code&gt; . I like to reuse selectors. ;-)

Maybe even &lt;code&gt;div.navigation span.meta-sep&lt;/code&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, maybe that&#8217;s the best approach, <code>span.nav-meta</code>. One note on your previous comment, Adam: <code>body.single div.navigation</code> . I like to reuse selectors. <img src='http://www.plaintxt.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Maybe even <code>div.navigation span.meta-sep</code>?</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2476</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>releases are good.  SVN isn't complicated, but it sure sounds scary. :D

meta-sep elements can be handled in CSS.  the angled quotes can't.  maybe they should have their own &lt;code&gt;&#60;span /&#62;&lt;/code&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>releases are good.  SVN isn&#8217;t complicated, but it sure sounds scary. <img src='http://www.plaintxt.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
meta-sep elements can be handled in CSS.  the angled quotes can&#8217;t.  maybe they should have their own <code>&lt;span /&gt;</code>?</p>
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		<title>By: mackrick</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2475</link>
		<dc:creator>mackrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 16:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was my skin more than anything. Moving the skin css across messed up the header. I had extra menus in the title. Just removed the offending line from header.php and all was ok.

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was my skin more than anything. Moving the skin css across messed up the header. I had extra menus in the title. Just removed the offending line from header.php and all was ok.</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintxt.org/2007/05/call-for-input-sandbox-v08/#comment-2474</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 16:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're right, Adam. I did delete a few &lt;code&gt;&#38;raquo;&lt;/code&gt; (like in the submit button) but I'm hesitant to remove them all. I'm on the fence about them. If I zap those, then I really should zap the &lt;code&gt;meta-sep&lt;/code&gt; elements.

The &lt;code&gt;entry-author&lt;/code&gt; was completely unnecessary. I decided to make all those 'post meta' classes more semantic and I really was out to trim as much fat as possible.

I'm also going to make another class for trackback comments, eg, &lt;code&gt;t[n]&lt;/code&gt;, for counting trackbacks. You'll see it in the readme.html, but it hasn't made its way to the theme files yet.

Also, there's also &lt;code&gt;category-paged-[n]&lt;/code&gt;, &lt;code&gt;date-paged-[n]&lt;/code&gt;, etc., for paginated indexes.

I've been reading up on hAtom, and I found out that if the &lt;code&gt;hfeed&lt;/code&gt; element contains &lt;code&gt;rel="tag"&lt;/code&gt; elements &lt;em&gt;outside&lt;/em&gt; an hentry, then those are considered like category feed for the whole blog, semantically. I think that change is really promising.

Also, I haven't bothered to update any of the skins yet, which I will do this weekend. Look for a release in the next few days. It's almost there.

I have also removed most hardcoded &lt;code&gt;rel="me"&lt;/code&gt;, because I read that they are implicit when pointing to a subdirectory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right, Adam. I did delete a few <code>&amp;raquo;</code> (like in the submit button) but I&#8217;m hesitant to remove them all. I&#8217;m on the fence about them. If I zap those, then I really should zap the <code>meta-sep</code> elements.</p>
<p>The <code>entry-author</code> was completely unnecessary. I decided to make all those &#8216;post meta&#8217; classes more semantic and I really was out to trim as much fat as possible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also going to make another class for trackback comments, eg, <code>t[n]</code>, for counting trackbacks. You&#8217;ll see it in the readme.html, but it hasn&#8217;t made its way to the theme files yet.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s also <code>category-paged-[n]</code>, <code>date-paged-[n]</code>, etc., for paginated indexes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading up on hAtom, and I found out that if the <code>hfeed</code> element contains <code>rel="tag"</code> elements <em>outside</em> an hentry, then those are considered like category feed for the whole blog, semantically. I think that change is really promising.</p>
<p>Also, I haven&#8217;t bothered to update any of the skins yet, which I will do this weekend. Look for a release in the next few days. It&#8217;s almost there.</p>
<p>I have also removed most hardcoded <code>rel="me"</code>, because I read that they are implicit when pointing to a subdirectory.</p>
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